(note: I was originally asked to write this piece for another venue a while back, but because of a scheduling miscommunication, I was able to post it here instead.) Ageism in Hollywood is no secret. Actress after actress, after screenwriter, after director has called it out. Screen great Helen Mirren called it “fucking outrageous.” No argument there. But is there ageism in the YA industry? Of course there is. We are a cross section of our society and not immune to any kinds of isms. But how does ageism manifest itself in our industry? How rampant is it? I've been pondering this for a while. Wondering. I’ve seen tweets and heard comments by industry people I greatly admire, smart informed people who are in-the-know and sensitive about language and assumptions, and yet use the word “old” as a derogatory adjective in regard to people. If someone is a jerk, fine, but they are not a jerk because they are ugly, fat, another race, or any other aspect of their person, including because they are old. But does it go deeper than that? I know part of it is the limitation of our language. Old is most often associated with expired things like milk, or worn out things like shoes with holes in them. Things we want to discard. Does this negative association with the word become a background beat that has repercussions for individuals who have several decades under their belt? Over a year ago, I responded to a young writer who was worried as she approached thirty that she was getting too old to be published. What?! I assured her she wasn’t and told her I wasn’t published until I was forty-four. I told her that since then I’d had ten books published in over twenty languages worldwide and had more to come. Age thirty wasn’t the end of the road by a long shot. But some time later I addressed a similar question from yet another young writer. My antennae had already been rising a little higher, especially when I would go to a book event and I was the only older woman there, or I would see a lineup of panels posted on social media and all the faces were very young. I wondered, where are the older writers? Have they stopped writing? I don’t think so. And yet the perception says otherwise. And then I saw a whole thread on Twitter from Susan Dennard, NYT bestselling author of the Witchland series. Susan has extensive writing information on her website so she hears from a lot of young writers. In Susan’s twitter thread I saw this same anxiety from young writers rearing its ugly head again—and again. The replies were staggering. I talked to her about this and she said: “In March, I got a wee bit angry on Twitter about ageism in YA. I had seen someone complaining about turning 30 and being past their prime, and considering I am 34 and only just getting started in this business... Well, it set off a nerve. On top of that, I frequently get messages from young aspiring authors -- I'm talking under age 20! -- who think they have somehow missed the boat on success. I don't know if it's a product of Youtube and Instagram culture, where there are a lot of teenage success stories, but the reason doesn't really matter. The fact is that it isn't true, and this pervasive belief is deeply damaging. There is no expiration date on writing. There is no expiration date on success, and I will keep preaching this until my younger and older readers believe me.” Preach it, Susan. I boosted Susan’s thread with a tweet of my own and added: “I’ve addressed this from young writers too. What bleeping message are we sending our daughters? We try to box women in from the day they are born. Stop. There is no creative clock ticking!” Indeed, what message are we sending our daughters? And to published young women in their thirties? That their careers are limited? There is a problem here. I think its roots are multifaceted and run deep, much of it grounded in our cultural obsession with beauty, and probably on a deeper level, fear of our own mortality. It has spawned an entire industry of “anti-aging” products. Because aging is horrible, right? Is invisibility one of its symptoms? Award-winning author Louise Hawes, discussed this invisibility here, touching on the subject of where marketing dollars are being directed and especially addressing author photos on jackets. It prompted me to make sure my author photo was in my next book. While I don’t have gray hair, I do have wrinkles and I didn’t want my lack of an author photo to contribute to this sense of invisibility. I am sixty-two. I want readers to know older writers exist. We are still creating. I spoke with Kate Elliott, NYT bestselling author of the Court of Fives series and more than twenty other novels, and she talked about this invisibility issue too, saying, “About ten years ago when Rolling Stone Magazine published its usual best 50 albums of the year I ran a quick scan through the list. I can’t recall for sure but I’m going to guess that not more than five were albums by women, and of course not one of those women was over 35. The lack of woman artists being honored as “bests” was bad enough, but the other unexamined message was downright chilling: Older women don’t produce important art. “Where I see a lack of older women—as characters, as role models, as a visible, valued presence in the arts (unless they established themselves as a big name when they were younger)—I see girls and young women being told they have no future to grow into even if they are the kickass heroine now, no important work to look forward to once they cross a certain threshold. It doesn’t have to be stated outright; it’s revealed by absence.” If older women in the arts become a rare species, will young writers fear for their own careers? Will middle-aged women just give up because of some antiquated message our culture perpetuates? When was the last time we saw a fifty-year-old debut author being heralded? Publishing a book at a young age is, of course, remarkable, but so is publishing a book at fifty. I’m concerned about the increased pressure on women in the writing world, thinking that a clock is ticking and their career choices are limited. As I said in my tweet, why do we always try to box women in from the day they are born? I felt it as a teen. I feel it now. Women are enough at whatever age they are. A twenty-year-old shouldn’t have to panic as she approaches thirty—or feel the rush to publish a book before she is ready. Likewise, an older woman writer should be proud of her age and every damn wrinkle she has acquired and not feel it is a hindrance to her career. And as a related aside, if I see one more cosmetic ad promising to “erase years” from my face or make me “look younger” I will scream. I don’t want to be young again—been there, done that—I have intense curiosity for the whole journey. Don’t suggest I should erase who I am. Stop shaming women of all ages. We are enough just as we are. This is also personal for me. I have two daughters and three granddaughters. And I have friends, acquaintances, and writing colleagues, older women who have hit career and publishing walls. I want them all to see that we value women at every stage, and to see an abundance of older women who are active and vibrant and who have thriving careers. I want them to see that their choices are not limited, but wide open. No more ticking clocks. I’ve chatted about this topic with Robin LaFevers, author of the NYT bestselling His Fair Assassin series and the forthcoming Courting Darkness, and she mentioned how easy it was for a woman to internalize this insidious message our culture broadcasts about aging women. She says, “We have to begin dismantling that, not only for ourselves, but for younger women who will be living even longer lives than we will. They will be faced with far more years of being told they have nothing of value to offer if we don’t start addressing this now.” We have only scraped the surface here. The constraints of word count have left many other aspects of ageism yet to be explored, like the effects of ageism on men, the roles social media and platforms play, and more. I think this conversation is just beginning. Finally, I was speaking with my agent, Rosemary Stimola, who has helped usher in many award-winning and bestselling books including the megahit Hunger Games. Agenting is Rosemary's third career, which she did not begin until her mid-forties, and she feels strongly that all that preceded it laid important groundwork for her becoming the agent she is—and she shows no sign of slowing down. She offered this about ageism, “I don’t think this notion is particular to writers, as ageism exists in all fields. In the end, we just keep showing them how wrong they are . . . ” Amen, Rosemary. | |
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Thank you for writing this, I cannot express how much it helps that other people notice what I have and yet also feel the same way. I am turning 30 this year and I am only writing my first book now. With the rise of social media and influencers people are achieving things at younger ages which now puts pressure on younger generations because I feel like people say that X achieved this at 16 and you’re 23, what have you been doing with your life? I’ve felt the pressure and wondered if I should even start writing, but then I mentally smack myself because some of my favourite authors are older. Instead of this pressure of succeeding while young it should be that social media allows people at any age to now achieve their dreams. There should be more on this conversation and I feel like it is important to talk about. Thanks again for this post.
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Mary Pearson
9/20/2018 08:08:25 am
I'm sorry you're feeling this pressure. As Robin said, we have to begin the work of dismantling it now. Yes, the conversation needs to continue. We need to celebrate the successes of women of all ages and make sure they are visible. Keep going!
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Jessie
9/20/2018 12:14:27 am
Firstly... I’d like to thank you. At 27 with multiple chronic illnesses, I struggle a lot with feeling this way because I don’t fit into the societal box that exists for women my age... Your words have resonated with me, and I feel they’ve stuck deep. I’ll remember them when I’m feeling inadequate as I approach my 30’s. Thank you.
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Mary Pearson
9/20/2018 08:11:18 am
I hope you never feel inadequate but I know how social pressures can do that to us. Hang in there. And I'm sorry I will miss you at the TTBF! I love Austin. I know it will be a fun time.
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Sarah
9/20/2018 05:10:50 am
Thank you for this! I started writing at 36 and am now 41. I feel like I'm getting so close to my own writing career and as I go seeking an agent, I am a little concerned that I'm older than most. To hear that you are 62 and started at 44 is very reassuring. Thank you.
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Mary Pearson
9/20/2018 08:12:54 am
Yes, we have to push past these social messages. Keep going Sarah! You have a long career ahead of you!
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Wow. I saw your post last night but just got to read this. I am so glad to hear you saying this!! I would like to be that 50-something debut author! It has taken me my whole life to get where I am now. I could not have written this book in my 20s. And I didn't have time! So here's to you - another kick-ass babe smoothing the way for the rest of us. Thanks!
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Mary Pearson
9/20/2018 06:40:34 pm
I hope you ARE that 50 something debut Linda! Keep going!
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This was eye-opening to me, Mary. I've been editing for 34 years and never once have I even thought about the age of the writer when I've acquired a book. Many times I have no clue how old a writer is until I see that author photo, often long after the editing has been done. I hadn't realized that writers felt there was a ticking clock on their creativity, and it's sad to learn that somewhere along the line society has put this idea into their heads. Sure...a really young writer can maximize on a publicity angle of being a prodigy, but it's the writing that makes a book successful. I hope all writers quash this idea of ageism in their thought process. Whether an author marks his or her debut at 16 or 60, a good book is a good book.
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Mary Pearson
9/20/2018 06:46:27 pm
I know you don't think about it in acquisition Karen, but the perception is borne from a very real invisibility. Older writers are harder to "see" out there. I can't tell you how many times I have been the only older writer at an event--especially older woman writer. The fear is real.
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9/20/2018 03:45:38 pm
My dearest, dearest Mary!
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Mary Pearson
9/20/2018 06:48:27 pm
I am so happy my age made you happy Jill : ) And you are so right--it is about when the time is right! xoxo
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9/20/2018 05:00:54 pm
Thanks, Mary, for picking up the anti-ageism ball and running with it so thoroughly and gracefully! Thanks, too, for citing my discussion on aging in YA publishing. There's a podcast interview (#17) on that piece here, along with a whole series of interviews with other kidlit women authors that I think your readers would enjoy: https://tinyurl.com/yaz7oh5q.
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Mary Pearson
9/20/2018 06:52:12 pm
Louise, thank YOU so much for your eye-opening piece. It truly made me go look at my last published book because I wasn't sure if my picture was in it or not. Sometimes I am so focused on the writing I don't pay attention to details like that. It wasn't. It prompted me to make sure it was in my new one! And all your statistics were fascinating. Thanks for the link. I will be sure to share!
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9/20/2018 06:51:02 pm
Ah, Mary., thank you. I began writing in third grade. I've never stopped writing. While I've published nonfiction and personal essay, I was a 50-something debut novelist. My thirteenth book releases in March 2019. I like to think I'm a better writer because I've spent so much time collecting experience. I intend to write until they pry my cold, dead hands from the keyboard.
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Mary Pearson
9/26/2018 09:06:34 am
I love your story of publication Cinda--and I want more to hear it! It is so important for young and older writers to know--and for publishers to take note too! We need to talk more!
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Louise
9/20/2018 11:12:54 pm
I've been seeing a concerning trend in the YA twitter community's attitude toward older YA readers. I'm seeing a lot of "YA should only be for teens" -- which, yes, YA should be WRITTEN for teens, but I absolutely disagree that we should deter adults from buying and reading YA. Some bloggers and influencers chide adult readers for chiming in on discussion, and I've seen ranting threads about how adults are taking something that isn't theirs. It's quite disturbing.
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Mary Pearson
9/26/2018 09:08:18 am
I agree, YA is for all ages--to both read and write and discuss!
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Diane Martin
9/21/2018 10:16:18 am
I love, love, love this post! I've been working at my writing for about a decade now and have just this year started taking it seriously...and I'm 52. I've raised my four kids and am now eager to be a 50-something debut author of middle-grade fantasy adventures. As C. S. Lewis said, "You are never too old to set another goal or to dream a new dream." Thanks for your words of encouragement for us "older" writers.
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Mary Pearson
9/26/2018 09:10:18 am
It sounds like it is the perfect time to pursue your dream Diane. I totally love that CS Lewis quote too. Go for it!
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Thank you Mary so much for writing this and posting it. I constantly have to remind myself that so many of my favorite authors weren’t published at all until they were in their 30s or 40s and so forth. I’m 30, turned 30 this year and I have definitely felt that pressure. I was indie published - we actually just appeared at Pasadena Loves YA together - but I have yet to enjoy any real success and I was recently dropped from my publisher and I have to start over with a new book, an agent search, the whole thing - and I’ve felt incredibly discouraged because I feel like I’m too old and unsuccessful and unnoticeable to do this again. I’ve been blogging for six years but people don’t know who I am, teenagers don’t follow my every move with rapture. My social media presence is there but my follower count is low. And it’s discouraging to see writers as young as high school getting agents and book deals. It’s hard and frustrating and I definitely have moments where feel like I am a huge failure because I’m 30 and unpublished, with no agent and a half finished book. Everything about this article spoke to me and reminded me that this is yet another imaginary deadline in my head and that my book and myself have time to get published
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Mary Pearson
9/26/2018 09:16:03 am
Sara, there are so many cultural and industry messages thrown at women of all ages. And yes, it can be discouraging, but it can't define who YOU are as a writer and the stories only you can tell and still need to share. As Robin said, we have to dismantle this ageist message for the sake of all writers. I think awareness is the first step. You have decades of creativity ahead of you. Don't stop!
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9/22/2018 06:55:39 pm
As a woman who's querying for the first time at the age of 44, this is so encouraging. I think my life experience has helped me become a better writer. And you make such a good point about young women needing to see a future where they are not obsolete.
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Mary Pearson
9/26/2018 09:23:15 am
Absolutely. Besides your own teen experience to draw from, you have observed and experienced countless teen experiences since then. It can definitely bring nuanced layers to a story. Good luck with your querying! I hope to see you on the shelves soon.
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9/26/2018 10:37:17 am
THANK YOU! I am proud to be 51 years-old. I didn't publish my first book, a YA until I was 49 years old. I grew up thinking authors needed experience to write books. I also thought age didn't matter for writers as I explored jazz music and fine arts, and finally returning to my first love of fiction writing. After raising my family, I have energy TO BURN! But I do write like I am running out of time. :)
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Mary Pearson
10/15/2018 06:21:43 pm
Yes, energy to burn! Keep at it, Karen!!
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10/15/2018 06:42:16 am
Hi Mary thank you for this! I am 61 and have published 13 novels including 3 middle grade with 4th coming soon. I also mentor women of a certain age who are finally ready to write! The dream/goal they put aside to work, raise kids, caretake their parents. It is such an honor to work with them. And yes,they wonder about ageism but I always encourage them to keep writing. A good story will find its way, no matter who wrote it. Thanks for this! A writer’s a writer, no matter how old.” (Apologies to Dr. Seuss)
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Mary Pearson
10/15/2018 06:23:21 pm
Thank you for the mentoring work you do Joyce! And yes, a writer's a writer no matter how old.
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10/15/2018 03:17:12 pm
Fabulous piece, Mary. And I love and admire you so much. Thank you for all of the writing that you do. You light the way for me. (And why not have lists of 50 over 50? One does get better as one ages. I believe this to my bones.)
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Mary Pearson
10/15/2018 06:28:35 pm
Love and admire you back, Martha! And I'm all for 50 over 50 lists. I especially want to see more older women authors "out there" so this veil of invisibility is gone--which is good for women of all ages--young and old.
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Betty
1/27/2019 01:01:48 pm
Not published at 30! Children, I am a week shy of 73 and still waiting to be published. I have two completed manuscripts -- a YA and an MG. And I certainly don't think of myself as too old to read, write, or publish literature for those age ranges. I've wanted to be a writer since 4th grade, but I didn't start writing my first serious book until my son was around 4th grade. Then life intervened -- again -- and by the time I was able to get back to it, the story had changed considerably. A great deal of the story revolves around orphaned baby raccoons and when I took up writing it again, my son -- then in his twenties -- said to me. "Mom, those raccoons have already grown up and run away a long time ago." And I said to him, "No, they haven't. They can't. They just have to stay in that tree until I rescue them." So I suppose that's why I keep writing. I can't just leave those baby raccoons up in that tree.
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